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Playing the environment

30 November, 2008 (20:34) | All, Warhammer

Firstly, let me make it perfectly clear that this is not a post about environmental issues.  It is a Warhammer post about one aspect of the game.  For simplicities sake, let’s say that Warhammer has two main parts to it.  There is the PvP side, known as Realm vs Realm, or RvR, and there is the PvE side; Player vs Environment, or “killing mobs”.

The RvR is quite good.  Not perfect, but good.  Keep assaults are a lot of fun, and even undefended it can be satisfying taking them back and getting your XP and Renown.  Scenarios can be fun also, though some of them are so awful that I refuse to do them in favour of others.  As much as I enjoy RvR, I don’t want to do RvR every time I log in, or for five or six hours straight.  This brings us to PvE.

I’ve never been a huge fan of questing, anyone who reads this blog regularly will know that.  I don’t hate quests, and some I like, such as the Heritage Quests in EQ2.  I don’t really mind the “kill 10 X” or the “deliver this message” quests, when they’re done for a point.  The Fed-Ex quests are a good way to send you to new zones or introduce you to a new NPC.

I can’t quite figure out what it is about Warhammer’s quests, but I struggle to bring myself to do them.  I just find them so dissatisfying.  The XP isn’t that great and the rewards, if you get any, aren’t of any use to you.  The quest directives are often vague, but not in a good way, and many of them send you to a PQ, so completing the quest solo is difficult if not impossible. 

In fact, I don’t like much of WAR’s PvE at all.  The PQ’s are a good way to grind XP and get good loot, so those I don’t mind.  A grind never really bothered me when there’s a prize at the end of it.  And with PQ’s you get a chance at a chest as well as the Influence rewards you get for it.  Problem with PQ’s though is that you need to be in a guild and/or organise a small warband to be able to complete all stages.

I decided to check out Mt Gunbad, a Tier 3 dungeon, to see what that was like.  I’m a bit of a dungeon crawl fan; it’s how I like my PvE.  EQ2 had a lot of great dungeons and so did Vanguard.  I’d been to Saccelum in the Inevitable City and wasn’t at all impressed.  So I headed to Gunbad in a group of four of us; a Black Orc as the tank, my lovely Witch Elf Kyrana, a DPS specced Disciple and me as the healer.  And I wasn’t impressed with that dungeon either.  This surprises me because Dark Age of Camelot had some great dungeons.  There’s a Tier 4 dungeon that I need to check out, Bastion Stair or something, when I hit T4.  I’m eager to get to T4, I’m getting a little tired of T3 now, and I want to see what this game really has to offer.

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Comments

Comment from Ainilome
Time: December 1, 2008, 3:24 am

Bastion Stair is a lot of fun, and there’s a lot of later T3 and T4 quests that were really interesting and cool, in my opinion. And if you manage to RP through them with Kyrana, they’d be worlds more fun. I mostly PvEed my way to 40. Even now at 40 I’ll spend most of my time filling up my tome and running dungeons. I need a much better PC before I attempt ORvR seriously, and scenerio grinding is terribly boring.

It’s not the best PvE I’ve encountered, but the storyline is worlds more fun than LoTROs. Yes, even with the “chapters” set up. I enjoyed interacting with the NPCs, building relationships with them, earning Ren some new enemies. Even if it was all in my head. And once you get closer to the end of t4 you get several quests directly from Morathi and Malekith that makes you feel really awesome. I also enjoyed the progression from starting area whelp fighting to clear your honor and stay alive to “hero of House Uthorin” and “right hand of Morathi” with NPCs sucking up to you and plending for you to mention them next you sit down with Lord Uthorin and Malekith. Great RP fodder, if nothing else.

Comment from Openedge1
Time: December 2, 2008, 11:06 am

Man, I hate to say I told you so…but, I remember so many people getting pissed off when I stated as such about WAR.
The game is reminiscent of a Halo style of gameplay. Login, run a couple of CTF style matches (RvR, ORvR, etc…), then log.
It is not built for longevity or even RP actually. The PvE detracts from that feature.

Now, the question remains….is it worth 15 bucks a month?

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