Camping the red button
Whoa. WTF is Tobold on about? If you can’t be bothered reading his post fear not, for I shall quote some of the highlights.
Nerf scenarios! Simply half the xp and renown earned in scenarios, and maybe give a bonus to xp in PQs, and suddenly players will be back in the non-instanced part of the world.
Do NOT assume that players are in scenarios because they are the most fun.
If you had the world’s best content on one side, and a boring red button on the other side pressing which once a minute gives twice the xp than the fun content, you’d see 90% of your players camping the red button.
You know, I wouldn’t know how the XP or renown compares with that earned in other parts of Warhammer. I don’t really pay any attention to how much of either I earned. At the end of the scenario when the window pops up giving you all the information for that scenario, I only pay particular attention to my damage and my healing stats. Did I feel like I did a lot of healing and does that reflect in the stats?
And I do scenarios because they ARE fun. And they’re easy to get into. We’ll get a guild group together, all of us off doing our own thing; questing, crafting, roleplaying, and we’ll queue up scenarios. Then we get into one as a group and have a blast. And we’re getting good at them as a guild group.
I will always do what’s “most fun” versus whatever gives me the best XP, Renown, Honour, or whatever else is on offer. I’m pointing the finger here but maybe it’s a WoW mentality that would actually see players “camping the red button”. I mean, when did “games” stop being about fun?
Comments
Comment from Openedge1
Time: October 13, 2008, 4:30 pm
I believe he is stating the “majority”, as I am afraid it keeps being told to us PvE’ers and RP’ers that we are the minority, and that the hardcore fast levelers who just want to PWN everything is in the majority.
It has been mentioned though that PvE in WAR is weak by many, with XP (which I head has been fixed, but this has not been corroborated) being less, and rewards being pitiful.
So, this leads people to get to certain sections of the game to get better XP and better rewards..;
i.e: the “Red Button”…or…Scenarios.
Rinse, Repeat is how they have been described.
And he is not alone, with quite a few bloggers also throwing up their hands in exasperation.
Wonder what the fun is in repeating the same content over and over…
Comment from Crimson Starfire
Time: October 13, 2008, 10:53 pm
I do scenarios because they are fun as well. I think I’ve only spent about 8 hours doing non-PvP related content. I’ve completed 3 public quests, but only because I wanted the items for PvP. Some people like PvP, some don’t (i.e Tobold). Although Tobold makes a good point about the players following the optimum path, there will always be your PvP types like me that prefer PvP over PvE. I’m just lucky that the game allows you to level via PvP at such a fast rate. If they nerf scenario XP and RP gain, I’ll probably leave. The PvE content really doesn’t hold my interest all that much.
Comment from Kyrana
Time: October 14, 2008, 10:04 am
I do the scenarios because they are fun and exciting–and I hardly ever pay attention to xp, because, like Cal, I pay more attention to my other stats: damage, number of kills, number of deaths, etc. I’d be disappointed if Mythic nerfs the xp from scenarios, however, because I think it will hurt those players like me who are doing it for the good fun and the excitement. It begs the question, however, if they get rid of the nice xp, will scenarios will be as plentiful and easily found–especially if those folks doing them for the increased xp aren’t tempted by that anymore?
Comment from 
caliga
Time: October 14, 2008, 2:15 pm
@Openedge - I agree that the quests are “weak” or as weak as most other quests in most other mmos with a few exceptions. The Public Quests are better because of better rewards. Scenarios can get a bit “samey” in that I’m about ready to level to a new tier and move on, though I’m still three levels away from doing that.
@Crimson - Much like you, beyond the first tier I find myself mostly in RvR/Scenarios, with the exception of making a once a week effort to work through at least one Chapter of a PQ. The questing bores me and I only do it when there’s nobody to group with for scenarios, RvR, or PQ’s. I’m getting a bit sick of PuG’s in scenarios also and am at the point where I’ll only do them if most of the group is comprised of guildies.
@Kyrana - I agree. I don’t want to see rewards reduced in scenarios because I’m pleased that I can level another way other than grinding boring quests and I don’t want to find scenarios deserted.
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